Religious Truths by Iris89 Forum Index Religious Truths by Iris89
exposure of false religious practices and doctrines, Jesus and his Father, and self-help
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 




DESIRABLE VS. UNDESIRABLE IMMIGRANTS IN A ‘NUTSHELL’

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Religious Truths by Iris89 Forum Index -> Welcome to ForumsLand.com - Free forum hosting service
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
iris89
Site Admin


Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Posts: 4397

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:35 pm    Post subject: DESIRABLE VS. UNDESIRABLE IMMIGRANTS IN A ‘NUTSHELL’ Reply with quote

DESIRABLE VS. UNDESIRABLE IMMIGRANTS IN A ‘NUTSHELL’

Most countries are in need of beneficial immigrants, but many immigrants are NOT beneficial. Let’s consider two distinct groups of immigrants, ONE DESIRABLE AND BENEFICIAL AND THE OTHER EXTREMELY UNDESIRABLE. This is not to imply that all of the beneficial group are all beneficial and/or to imply that all of the extremely undesirable group are not beneficial, but to deal with the beneficial and non-beneficial groups as a whole and not the anomalies within each group.

The two groups to consider with respect European incoming immigrants (but also applicable to North America). These two groups are the beneficial Jewish immigrants and the extremely undesirable un-beneficial Muslims.
ITEM 1 – Creation of employment for members of the host country:
JEWS – They put in businesses that employ many members of the host country, and even employ good members of the NOT beneficial group. For example, the Kosher supermarket in Paris that was attacked by a member of the NOT beneficial group even employed a good Muslim who provided protection for many Jews at great risk to himself during the attack – obviously his Jewish employer so good in him and did not discriminate with respect to hiring him just because he was a member of an extremely undesirable group.

MUSLIMS – Most never create employment for others in the host country, but often attack businesses of people in the host country as clearly most recently shown in France and Denmark.

ITEM 2 – Assimilation into the society of the host country.
JEWS – In all countries they immigrant to, they seek to as simulate into the society and become part of the ways of the country.
MUSLIMS – Most are ISOLATIONIST who intentionally refuse to assimilate into the society and become part of the ways of the country. They go so far as to become arrogant “prima donnas” that are better than the host country citizens. Rather than accept the excellent standard education offered my most host countries, they want government paid for Muslim faith based schools that do NOT accept any but their own kind; i.e., they are racist bigots that consider their children better than anyone else and even set-up a few schools on their own stacked with the brightest Muslim children to try and show that a school they run is superior. This practice is quite dishonest since regular schools in most countries accept all comers – both good and poor students; therefore their practice is nothing but dishonest fraud with respect reality.

ITEM 3 – Host government expense due to presence of group vs. tax received from the group.
JEWS – Contribute heavily with respect host country tax receipts and create little expense for the host country.
MUSLIMS – Contribute little with respect host country tax receipts and create very large expense for the host country; i.e., due to their misbehaving and savagery most countries must expand considerable money on security, defense, and rebuilding of items destroyed by them such as buses and subway trains in England, World Trade Center in New York City. Also, they murder many in host countries – 3,000 in one day in the USA, etc.

ITEM 4 – Rapist and crime among group in proportion to their percentage of host country population.
JEWS – In most host countries the number of rapes and crimes committed by this group is statistically insignificant.

MUSLIMS - In most host countries the number of rapes and crimes committed by this group is statistically very great. In France this group often burns the cars of others and riots, and in most of Europe they form Muslim rape gangs that go out and systematically rape young girls of the host country.

Let’s look at some examples. Muslim Child-Rape Gangs in Britain, the facts.

While Muslim groups have sought to discredit the police investigations by claiming "Islamophobia," it recently emerged that British police had known for more than a decade that Muslim rape gangs were targeting young girls in England, but they ignored evidence because they were afraid of being accused of racism.

To learn more, go to,

1) http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslim-child-rape-gangs-britain
2) www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3846
3) www.frontpagemag.com/.../britain-grapples...muslim-sex-gangs
4) www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCQ9ZWfCuQ
5) www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3068/muslim...rape-gangs-britain
6) www.caringforourchildrenfoundation.org/?p=21500
7) www.mrctv.org/videos/dispatches-muslim-rape-gangs-england

Other solution to protecting female children in the U.K. would be to dissolve Islam in the U.K.

And this is a pattern existing throughout Europe.

ITEM 5 – Extremely unbeneficial persecutes beneficial group.
JEWS – Feel very threatened from racist, bigoted, persecution against them by Muslims, and in France many are considering immigrating to Israel. This would be very bad for the host country since they are very beneficial.
MUSLIMS – Show their hate and racism like ‘roaring lions’ in the persecution of Jews by many of their members and this is most apparent in France.

ITEM 6 – Neighborhood characteristics of both groups.
JEWS – Keep their neighborhoods very clean and well kept, and do act haughty and nasty with host country people that visit and/or walk through them.
MUSLIMS – Do NOT keep up the appearance and cleanliness of their neighborhoods, and one Dutch member of the Dutch Parliament, Greet Wilder, specifically noted this and called Muslim neighborhoods dark areas. Worse yet, nowhere is their hate, love of violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others more apparent than in their neighborhoods of these non-assimilators. I know of a case where several Britain’s were walking through one of their neighborhoods and specifically warned NOT TO walk by on the public sidewalk in front of a mosque in London, can you imagine and this in their own country. Also, they have beheaded a British soldier right in London.

ITEM 7 – With respect hate, love of violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others.
JEWS – Do not hate others in host country nor love violence, and have a strong regard for the person and property of others.
MUSLIMS – Teach and practice hate, a love for violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others in their home and mosque, and even want Muslim Faith Based schools that discriminate and do NOT want non-Muslims as students, unlike schools of other religions that gladly accept all in their vicinity since they do not teach vile hate, a love for violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others. In fact, they are nothing short of a dangerous Fifth Column is all host countries.

Sometimes, this evil teaching comes back to haunt Muslim parents as just happened in Britain when three teen age Muslim girls ran away from home and went to Turkey to join up with ISIS due to this home and mosque training.

CONCLUSION:

About 95% of the religious inspired violence in the world today is caused by Muslims and this has been true since the inception of Islam. They blame the west for the Crusades, but they would NEVER have happened except for their anti-loving acts against so called Christian pilgrims to the Holy Lands.

Many religions claim to be exactly what they are NOT. Take for example Islam and apostate (counterfeit) Christians, they do NOT like each other, but in many ways they are so much alike.

Throughout history Islam which claims to be a religion of peace has attacked apostate (counterfeit) Christians and has attempted to steal land and people from them, and then cried fowl when they struck back. How ridicules and hypocritical that is for any group; to wit, to initiate blood guilt and then yell when the other group defends itself and strikes back.

Members of Islam accuse the Catholic Church of starting the Crusades, but this is just one BIG LIE. Let's look at the facts, the reality. Now let's look at the facts of the First Crusade from history and see how the greed and war like ways of Islam brought it on.

<<"In 1009 the Fatimid caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah had sacked the pilgrimage hospice in Jerusalem and destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It was later rebuilt by the Byzantine emperor, but this event may have been remembered in Europe and may have helped spark the crusade. In 1063, Pope Alexander II had given papal blessing to Iberian Christians in their wars against the Muslims, granting both a papal standard (the vexillum sancti Petri) and an indulgence to those who were killed in battle. Pleas from the Byzantine Emperors, now threatened under by the Seljuks, first in 1074 from Emperor Michael VII to Pope Gregory VII and in 1095 from Emperor Alexius I Comnenus to Pope Urban II, thus fell on ready ears...

This background in the Christian West must be matched with that in the Muslim East. Muslim presence in the Holy Land goes back to the initial Arab conquest of Palestine in the 7th century. This did not interfere much with pilgrimage to Christian holy sites or the security of monasteries and Christian communities in the Holy Land of Christendom, and western Europeans were not much concerned with the loss of far-away Jerusalem when, in the ensuing decades and centuries, they were themselves faced with invasions by Muslims and other hostile non-Christians such as the Vikings and Magyars. However, the Muslim armies' successes were putting strong pressure on the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire.

A turning point in western attitudes towards the east came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid caliph of Cairo, al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, had the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem destroyed. His successor permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it under stringent circumstances, and pilgrimage was again permitted, but many stories began to be circulated in the West about the cruelty of Muslims toward Christian pilgrims; these stories then played an important role in the development of the crusades later in the century.

AND THEY STILL ARE WRONGFULLY OCCUPYING PART OF PALESTINE – The Muslims control over 98% of the middle east but are so greedy they do not even want the Hebrews, the Jews, to have the little over 1% that rightfully belongs to them – it is high time for them to get completely out of Hebrew lands they still occupy and make reparation for their wrongful occupation.
Now let's look at the first example of Islam's war loving land stealing ways when they tried to steal Spain, but eventually were thrown out of this wrongfully occupied land by its true owners – the Spanish.
In 711 the Visigothic were ruling in Spain and in no way attacking Islam, yet Islam attacked them without any real provocation. Yes, of course they claimed they had provocation, i.e., they claimed that last Visigoth king, Roderick had seduced the young Florinda, daughter of Julian, Visigothic governor of Ceuta in north Africa an apostate (counterfeit) Christian and they were out to avenge this; but clearly two things stand out, First, it was none of their business, Second, there is no evidence that this ever occurred.

Now Let's look at proof that Islam is NOT a religion of peace from history,

<<" In 711 CE Tariq ibn Ziyad, the governor of Tangiers, landed in Gibraltar with around 10,000 men, mostly Berbers (indigenous North Africans). He had some of Roderick's Visigoth rivals as allies. In the same or following year in the Cadiz province, Roderick's army was decimated and he is thought to have drowned as he fled. The Visigothic survivors fled to the north of Spain, and within a few years, the Muslims had taken over the rest of the Iberian Peninsula bar a few areas in the Asturian Mountains bordering France. [source - http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0075_popup9.htm]
As can easily be seen, Islam was out for stealing land NOT belonging to them and used Tariq ibn Ziyad, a Muslim general, to accomplish this terrible wrong. This of course is not being peaceful in any way.
As usual, they are violent racist and bigots that have NO REGARD FOR THE PERSON AND PROPERTY OF OTHERS.



Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
iris89
Site Admin


Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Posts: 4397

PostPosted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ARTICLE SAYS IT ALL WITH RESPECT NOT TO TRUST MUSLIMS:
When (and Why) Good Muslim Neighbors Turn Bad
by Raymond Ibrahim
FrontPage Magazine
July 8, 2015
http://www.meforum.org/5371/why-muslims-bad-neighbors
Originally published under the title, "When Muslims Betray Non-Muslim Friends and Neighbors"
Let believers not take for friends and allies infidels instead of believers: and whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah—unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions. – Koran 3:28
Days ago, after the Islamic State [IS] entered the Syrian city of Hassakè, prompting a mass exodus of Christians, a familiar but often overlooked scene, took place: many otherwise "normal" Muslimsjoined ranks with IS, instantly turning on their longtime Christian neighbors.
This is the third category of Muslims that lurks between "moderates" and "radicals": "sleepers," Muslims who appear "moderate" but who are merely waiting for circumstances to turn to Islam's advantage before they join the jihad; Muslims who are waiting for the rewards of jihad to become greater than the risks.
There is no lack of examples of these types of Muslims. The following are testimonials from non-Muslims, mostly Christian refugees from those regions of Iraq and Syria now under Islamic State (or other jihadi) control. Consider what they say about their longtime Sunni neighbors who appeared "moderate"—or at least nonviolent—but who, once the jihad came to town, exposed their true colors:
Georgios, a man from the ancient Christian town of Ma'loula—one of the few areas in the world where the language of Christ was still spoken—told of how Muslim neighbors he knew all his life turned on the Christians after al-Nusra, another jihadi outfit, invaded in 2013:
We knew our Muslim neighbours all our lives. Yes, we knew the Diab family were quite radical, but we thought they would never betray us. We ate with them. We are one people.
A few of the Diab family had left months ago and we guessed they were with the Nusra [al-Qaeda front]. But their wives and children were still here. We looked after them. Then, two days before the Nusra attacked, the families suddenly left the town. We didn't know why. And then our neighbours led our enemies in among us.
The Christian man explained with disbelief how he saw a young member of the Diab family whom he knew from youth holding a sword and leading foreign jihadis to Christian homes. Continues Georgios:
We had excellent relations. It never occurred to us that Muslim neighbours would betray us. We all said "please let this town live in peace — we don't have to kill each other." But now there is bad blood. They brought in the Nusra to throw out the Christians and get rid of us forever. Some of the Muslims who lived with us are good people but I will never trust 90 per cent of them again.
A teenage Christian girl from Homs, Syria—which once had a Christian population of approximately 80,000, but which is now reportedly zero—relates her story:
We left because they were trying to kill us. . . . They wanted to kill us because we were Christians. They were calling us Kaffirs [infidels], even little children saying these things. Those who were our neighbors turned against us. At the end, when we ran away, we went through balconies. We did not even dare go out on the street in front of our house. I've kept in touch with the few Christian friends left back home, but I cannot speak to my Muslim friends any more. I feel very sorry about that. (Crucified Again, p. 207)
When asked who exactly threatened and drove Christians out of Mosul, which fell to the Islamic State a year ago, another anonymous Christian refugee responded:
We left Mosul because ISIS came to the city. The [Sunni Muslim] people of Mosul embraced ISIS and drove the Christians out of the city. When ISIS entered Mosul, the people hailed them and drove out the Christians....
The people who embraced ISIS, the people who lived there with us... Yes, my neighbors. Our neighbors and other people threatened us. They said: "Leave before ISIS get you." What does that mean? Where would we go?... Christians have no support in Iraq. Whoever claims to be protecting the Christians is a liar. A liar!
Nor is such Muslim treachery limited to Christians. Other "infidels," Yazidis for example, have experienced the same betrayal. Discussing IS invasion of his village, a 68-year-old Yazidi man who managed to flee the bloody offensive—which included the slaughter of many Yazidi men and enslavement of women and children—said:
The (non-Iraqi) jihadists were Afghans, Bosnians, Arabs and even Americans and British fighters.... But the worst killings came from the people living among us, our (Sunni) Muslim neighbours.... The Metwet, Khawata and Kejala tribes—they were all our neighbours. But they joined the IS, took heavy weapons from them, and informed on who was Yazidi and who was not. Our neighbours made the IS takeover possible.
Likewise, watch this 60 Minutes interview with a Yazidi woman. When asked why people she knew her whole life would suddenly join IS and savagely turn on her people, she replied:
I can't tell you exactly, but it has to be religion. It has to be religion. They constantly asked us to convert, but we refused. Before this, they never mentioned it. Prior, we thought of each other as family. But I say, it has to be religion.
Lest it seem that this phenomenon of Sunni betrayal is limited to Islamic jihad in Mesopotamia, know that it has occurred historically and currently in other nations. The following anecdote from the Ottoman Empire is over 100 years old:
Then one night, my husband came home and told me that the padisha [sultan] had sent word that we were to kill all the Christians in our village, and that we would have to kill our neighbours. I was very angry, and told him that I did not care who gave such orders, they were wrong. These neighbours had always been kind to us, and if he dared to kill them Allah would pay us out. I tried all I could to stop him, but he killed them — killed them with his own hand. (Sir Edwin Pears, Turkey and Its People, London: Methuen and Co., 1911, p. 39)

And in Nigeria—a nation that shares little with Syria, Iraq, or Turkey, other than Islam—a jihadi attack on Christians that left five churches destroyed and several Christians killed was enabled by "local Muslims":
The Muslims in this town were going round town pointing out church buildings and shops owned by Christians to members of Boko Haram, and they in turn bombed these churches and shops.
Such similar patterns of traitorous behavior—patterns that cross continents and centuries, patterns that regularly appear whenever Muslims live alongside non-Muslims—are easily understood by turning to Koran 3:28:
Let believers [Muslims] not take infidels [non-Muslims] for friends and allies instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with God—unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions. But Allah cautions you [to fear] Himself. For the final goal is to Allah.
Here is how Islam's most authoritative ulema and exegetes explain Koran 3:28. Muhammad ibn Jarir at-Tabari (d. 923), author of a standard and authoritative commentary of the Koran, writes:
If you [Muslims] are under their [non-Muslims'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them with your tongue while harboring inner animosity for them ... [know that] Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels rather than other believers—except when infidels are above them [in authority]. Should that be the case, let them act friendly towards them while preserving their religion.
Ibn Kathir (d. 1373), another prime authority on the Koran, writes:
The Most High said, "[U]nless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions"—that is, whoever at any time or place fears their evil may protect himself through outward show—not sincere conviction. As al-Bukhari records through Abu al-Darda the words [of the Prophet], "Truly, we grin to the faces of some peoples, while our hearts curse them."
In other words, Muslims are not to befriend non-Muslims, unless circumstances are such that it is in the Muslims' interests to do so. For example, if Muslims are a minority (as in America), or if their leaders brutally crack down on jihadi activities (as in Bashar Assad's pre-Islamic State Syria): then they may preach and even feign peace, tolerance, and coexistence with their non-Muslim neighbors.
However, if and when circumstances to make Islam supreme appear, Muslims are expected to join the jihad—"for the final goal is to Allah."[1]
Raymond Ibrahim is a Judith Friedman Rosen Fellow at the Middle East Forum and a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. He is the author of Crucified Again: Exposing Islam's New War on Christians (2013) and The Al Qaeda Reader (2007).
________________________________________
[1] For more on Islamic sanctioned forms of deception, read about taqiyya, tawriya, and taysir. For more on how Muslims are never to befriend non-Muslims—except when in their interest—see Ayman al-Zawahiri's "Loyalty and Enmity," The Al Qaeda Reader, pgs., 63-115.
[Sourc - retrieved from https://us-mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=0jomfm900d4fd on 7/11/2015]
ARTICLE SAYS IT ALL ABOUT MUSLIMS:
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
iris89
Site Admin


Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Posts: 4397

PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:14 pm    Post subject: KARENS Reply with quote

NOTICE THE CONTRAST BETWEEN MUSLIM AND KAREN IMMIGRANTS. KAREN IMMIGRANTS CAUSE NO PROBLEMS, DO NOT WANT SPECIAL SCHOOLS OR SCHOOL LUNCH MENUS, WANT TO INTEGRATE AND BE PART OF REGULAR SOCIETY; WHEREAS, MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS CAUSE MANY PROBLEMS AND A GREAT EXPENSE FOR SECURITY MEASURES, WANT SPECIAL SCHOOLS JUST FOR THEM AND SPECIAL LUNCH MENUS, DO NOT WANT TO INTEGRATE AND BE PART OF REGULAR SOCIETY, AND DO NOT BEHEAD OTHERS.
READ DETAILS ON NEXT POST BELOW.

DESIRABLE (KARENS) VS. UNDESIRABLE IMMIGRANTS IN A ‘NUTSHELL’

Most countries are in need of beneficial immigrants, but many immigrants are NOT BENEFICIAL. Let’s consider two distinct groups of immigrants, ONE DESIRABLE AND BENEFICIAL AND THE OTHER EXTREMELY UNDESIRABLE. This is not to imply that all of the beneficial group are all beneficial and/or to imply that all of the extremely undesirable group are not beneficial, but to deal with the beneficial and non-beneficial groups as a whole and not the anomalies within each group.

FIRST, LET’S DEFINE THE TWO GROUPS THIS ARTICLE WILL COVER IN CONTRAST:

DESIRABLE GROUP:

The Karen, Kayin, Kariang or Yang people (Burmese,pronounced: [k?j??? lù mjó]; Per Ploan Poe or Ploan in Poe Karen and Pwa Ka Nyaw or Kanyaw in Sgaw Karen; Thai:) refer to a number of individual Sino-Tibetan language speaking ethnic groups, many of which do not share a common language or culture. These Karen groups reside primarily in Karen State, southern and southeastern Myanmar. The Karen make up approximately 7 percent of the total Burmese population with approximately 5 million people.[6] A large number of Karen have migrated to Thailand, having settled mostly on the Thailand–Myanmar border.

The Karen groups as a whole are often confused with the Padaung tribe, best known for the neck rings worn by their women, but they are just one sub-group of Red Karens (Karenni), one of the tribes of Kayah in Kayah State, Myanmar. [sourc - retrieved from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_people on 7/3/2016]

UNDESIRABLE GROUP:

Members of Islam from the Middle East, Africa, and South East Asia. They are of various ethnic and language groups. They follow a holy book that promotes violence, and wants to tax non-believers when they are in power. Let’s look at a few passages to prove this statement:

Sura 009.005
YUSUFALI: But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Sura 009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

Sura 008.014
YUSUFALI: Thus (will it be said): "Taste ye then of the (punishment): for those who resist Allah, is the penalty of the Fire."

Sura 024.004 (Note, if a women gets raped, they strongly favor the rapist by requiring unreasonable proof).
YUSUFALI: And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations),- flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors;-

Many of their members either commit violent and hateful acts against individuals of other groups and their property. Such as NYC 9/11/2001, London 7/7/2005, Paris and Belgium more recently, Iraq and Bangladesh, and many other places; whereas, many othes others cheer these violent crimes against humanity.

Many of them go on welfare in their host countries instead of being helpful to their host countries.

CONTRAST BETWEEN THE TWO GROUPS:

The two groups to consider with respect European incoming immigrants and North America immigrants. These two groups are the beneficial Koren immigrants and the extremely undesirable un-beneficial Muslims.

ITEM 1 – Assimilation into the society of the host country.

KARENS – Actual article detailing their assimilation and benefit in a n a South Dakota Rural Community.

Posted by Tammi Schone, South Dakota USDA Public Information Officer, on May 10, 2012 at 1:55 PM
USDA Rural Development in South Dakota is interested in learning about and working with other cultures. To enhance employee understanding, Mark Heuston, Director of Human Resources withDakota Provisions, a turkey processing firm, was invited to USDA offices recently to make a presentation on the topic of diversity.

Dakota Provisions talent and expertise on working with diverse groups from several cultures is becoming well known throughout the South Dakota business world. Most notable, is their success in recruiting Myanmar (Burmese) immigrants, “The Karen” to work in various positions throughout the processing plant located in Huron, SD.

The Karens are members of indigenous minority ethnic groups which reside primarily in southern and southeastern Myanmar. Some members have come to the United States recently. Mr. Heuston educated staff on the Karen culture, the intricate process involved with them leaving Myanmar, and the transition to a life of personal enrichment in the United States – work, home, family, church, and community.

As South Dakota Rural Development staff build upon USDA Rural Development’s vision, mission, and cultural transformation initiative, this session proved to be very informative and educational. It provided organization employees with the opportunity to understand, accept, value, and celebrate the differences among people with respect to age, class, ethnicity, and gender. Ideas were also shared on how to overcome communication and cultural barriers.

“South Dakota’s rural nature has been an excellent fit for the Karen people. Without them, the current success at our processing plant would not have been possible. I am extremely proud of the way South Dakota and especially Huron has embraced the new residents. It is extremely hard to attract workers to South Dakota and I think several others communities in South Dakota will be able to build on the successes that we have had.” said Mark Heuston, Director of Human Resources at Dakota Provisions. [sourc - retrieved from http://blogs.usda.gov/2012/05/10/divers ... community/ on 7/3/2016]

Comment, they are wanted as they are beneficial to their host and do NOT create problems or go on welfare.

MUSLIMS – Most are ISOLATIONIST who intentionally refuse to assimilate into the society and become part of the ways of the country. They go so far as to become arrogant “prima donnas” that are better than the host country citizens. Rather than accept the excellent standard education offered my most host countries, they want government paid for Muslim faith based schools that do NOT accept any but their own kind; i.e., they are racist bigots that consider their children better than anyone else and even set-up a few schools on their own stacked with the brightest Muslim children to try and show that a school they run is superior. This practice is quite dishonest since regular schools in most countries accept all comers – both good and poor students; therefore their practice is nothing but dishonest fraud with respect reality.

ITEM 2 – Host government expense due to presence of group vs. tax received from the group.

KARENS – Contribute heavily with respect host country tax receipts and create little expense for the host country.

Here is an article showing how beneficial the KARENS are is South Dakota.

Refugees who fled ethnic persecution in Myanmar have reportedly boosted the local economy in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

MOSCOW, December 16 (Sputnik) — Karen refugees who fled ethnic persecution inMyanmar have boosted the local economy in Sioux Falls, South Dakota where 9 percent of jobs in the county are performed by the 2,000 refugees, a BBC documentary released Tuesday reports.

More than 2,000 refugees from the Karen region of Myanmar moved to South Dakota to avoid ethnic persecution by their government, according to the short film by the BBC Pop Up project telling about life in Pittsburgh area.

"Nine percent of every job in the county is held by a Karen person. Originally we were the only business that had the Karen people. But currently there about 30 businesses in the area that employ Karen people," Mark Heuston, director of human resources at Dakota Provisions turkey processing plant, said in the documentary.

More than 60 percent positions at Dakota Provisions are currently occupied by the Karen people, according to the film.
"Because of Karen this is probably the most efficient turkey processing facility in the United States," Heuston added.
The turkey-processing facility provides the refuges with an immigration attorney to help them to go through the application process to become US citizens, Heuston said.

Refugees who fled ethnic persecution in Myanmar have reportedly boosted the local economy in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. MOSCOW, December 16 (Sputnik) — Karen refugees who fled ethnic persecution inMyanmar have boosted the local economy in Sioux Falls, South Dakota where 9 percent of jobs in the county are performed by the 2,000 refugees, a BBC documentary released Tuesday reports.

More than 2,000 refugees from the Karen region of Myanmar moved to South Dakota to avoid ethnic persecution by their government, according to the short film by the BBC Pop Up project telling about life in Pittsburgh area.

"Nine percent of every job in the county is held by a Karen person. Originally we were the only business that had the Karen people. But currently there about 30 businesses in the area that employ Karen people," Mark Heuston, director of human resources at Dakota Provisions turkey processing plant, said in the documentary.

More than 60 percent positions at Dakota Provisions are currently occupied by the Karen people, according to the film.
"Because of Karen this is probably the most efficient turkey processing facility in the United States," Heuston added.

The turkey-processing facility provides the refuges with an immigration attorney to help them to go through the application process to become US citizens, Heuston said. [sourc - retrieved from http://sputniknews.com/business/2014121 ... 15113.html on 7/3/2016]

MUSLIMS – Contribute little with respect host country tax receipts and create very large expense for the host country; i.e., due to their misbehaving and savagery most countries must expand considerable money on security, defense, and rebuilding of items destroyed by them such as buses and subway trains in England, World Trade Center in New York City. Also, they murder many in host countries – 3,000 in one day in the USA, etc. In addition they have beheaded host country soldiers and host country citizens, committed suicide bombings, massacred many in host countries, committed ‘honour’ murders, wanted host country schools to provide them special food (Note, when the host country school I went to served food against by religion, I did not demand special food, but brought my own from home).

ITEM 3 – Rapist and crime among group in proportion to their percentage of host country population.

KARENS – In host country no rapes and crimes have been committed by this group.

MUSLIMS - In most host countries the number of rapes and crimes committed by this group is statistically very great. In France this group often burns the cars of others and riots, and in most of Europe they form Muslim rape gangs that go out and systematically rape young girls of the host country.

Let’s look at some examples. Muslim Child-Rape Gangs in Britain, the facts.

While Muslim groups have sought to discredit the police investigations by claiming "Islamophobia," it recently emerged that British police had known for more than a decade that Muslim rape gangs were targeting young girls in England, but they ignored evidence because they were afraid of being accused of racism.

To learn more, go to,

1)http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/ ... gs-britain
2) www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3846
3) www.frontpagemag.com/.../britain-grappl ... -sex-gangs
4) www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZCQ9ZWfCuQ
5) www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3068/muslim. ... gs-britain
6) www.caringforourchildrenfoundation.org/?p=21500
7) www.mrctv.org/videos/dispatches-muslim- ... gs-england

ALSO, SWEDEN: 77.6% OF ALL RAPES ARE COMMITTED BY MUSLIM MALES, WHO TOTAL ONLY 2% OF POPULATION – GOV REPORT

To see account of this, go to https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/ ... opulation/

Other solution to protecting female children in the U.K. would be to dissolve Islam in the U.K. and elsewhere they are causing trouble.

ITEM 4 – Extremely unbeneficial persecutes beneficial group.

KARENS – Feel very threatened from racist, bigoted, persecution against them by Muslims. This would be very bad for the host country since they are very beneficial.

MUSLIMS – Show their hate and racism like ‘roaring lions’ in the persecution of Karens

ITEM 5 – Neighborhood characteristics of both groups.

KARENS – Keep their neighborhoods very clean and well kept, and do act haughty and nasty with host country people that visit and/or walk through where they live, but welcome them in as respected neighbors.

MUSLIMS – Do NOT keep up the appearance and cleanliness of their neighborhoods, and one Dutch member of the Dutch Parliament, Greet Wilder, specifically noted this and called Muslim neighborhoods dark areas. Worse yet, nowhere is their hate, love of violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others more apparent than in their neighborhoods of these non-assimilators. I know of a case where several Britain’s were walking through one of their neighborhoods and specifically warned NOT TO walk by on the public sidewalk in front of a mosque in London, can you imagine and this in their own country. Also, they have beheaded a British soldier right in London.

ITEM 6 – With respect hate, love of violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others.

KARENS – Do not hate others in host country nor love violence, and have a strong regard for the person and property of others.

MUSLIMS – Teach and practice hate, a love for violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others in their home and mosque, and even want Muslim Faith Based schools that discriminate and do NOT want non-Muslims as students, unlike schools of other religions that gladly accept all in their vicinity since they do not teach vile hate, a love for violence, and a disregard for the person and property of others. In fact, they are nothing short of a dangerous Fifth Column is all host countries.

Sometimes, this evil teaching comes back to haunt Muslim parents as happened in Britain when three teen age Muslim girls ran away from home and went to Turkey to join up with ISIS due to this home and mosque training.

CONCLUSION AND REALITY:

About 95% of the religious inspired violence in the world today is caused by Muslims and this has been true since the inception of Islam. They blame the west for the Crusades, but they would NEVER have happened except for their anti-loving acts against so called Christian pilgrims to the Holy Lands.

Many religions claim to be exactly what they are NOT. Take for example Islam and apostate (counterfeit) Christians, they do NOT like each other, but in many ways they are so much alike.

Throughout history Islam which claims to be a religion of peace has attacked apostate (counterfeit) Christians and has attempted to steal land and people from them, and then cried fowl when they struck back. How ridicules and hypocritical that is for any group; to wit, to initiate blood guilt and then yell when the other group defends itself and strikes back. EXAMPLE, their continued wrongful occupation of large parts of Palestine which rightfully really belongs to the Hebrews from over 3,000 years, long before Islam; why is Islam so greedy? This is especially so since they control over 98% of the Middle East. The Karens are not greedy like this. (More on this to follow.)

Members of Islam accuse the Catholic Church of starting the Crusades, but this is just one BIG LIE. Let's look at the facts, the reality. Now let's look at the facts of the First Crusade from history and see how the greed and war like ways of Islam brought it on.

<<"In 1009 the Fatimid caliph al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah had sacked the pilgrimage hospice in Jerusalem and destroyed the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It was later rebuilt by the Byzantine emperor, but this event may have been remembered in Europe and may have helped spark the crusade. In 1063, Pope Alexander II had given papal blessing to Iberian Christians in their wars against the Muslims, granting both a papal standard (the vexillum sancti Petri) and an indulgence to those who were killed in battle. Pleas from the Byzantine Emperors, now threatened under by the Seljuks, first in 1074 from Emperor Michael VII to Pope Gregory VII and in 1095 from Emperor Alexius I Comnenus to Pope Urban II, thus fell on ready ears...

This background in the Christian West must be matched with that in the Muslim East. Muslim presence in the Holy Land goes back to the initial Arab conquest of Palestine in the 7th century. This did not interfere much with pilgrimage to Christian holy sites or the security of monasteries and Christian communities in the Holy Land of Christendom, and western Europeans were not much concerned with the loss of far-away Jerusalem when, in the ensuing decades and centuries, they were themselves faced with invasions by Muslims and other hostile non-Christians such as the Vikings and Magyars. However, the Muslim armies' successes were putting strong pressure on the Eastern Orthodox Byzantine Empire.

A turning point in western attitudes towards the east came in the year 1009, when the Fatimid caliph of Cairo, al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, had the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem destroyed. His successor permitted the Byzantine Empire to rebuild it under stringent circumstances, and pilgrimage was again permitted, but many stories began to be circulated in the West about the cruelty of Muslims toward Christian pilgrims; these stories then played an important role in the development of the crusades later in the century.

AND THEY STILL ARE WRONGFULLY OCCUPYING PART OF PALESTINE – The Muslims control over 98% of the middle east but are so greedy they do not even want the Hebrews, the Jews, to have the little over 1% that rightfully belongs to them – it is high time for them to get completely out of Hebrew lands they still occupy and make reparation for their wrongful occupation.
Now let's look at the first example of Islam's war loving land stealing ways when they tried to steal Spain, but eventually were thrown out of this wrongfully occupied land by its true owners – the Spanish.

In 711 the Visigothic were ruling in Spain and in no way attacking Islam, yet Islam attacked them without any real provocation. Yes, of course they claimed they had provocation, i.e., they claimed that last Visigoth king, Roderick had seduced the young Florinda, daughter of Julian, Visigothic governor of Ceuta in north Africa an apostate (counterfeit) Christian and they were out to avenge this; but clearly two things stand out, First, it was none of their business, Second, there is no evidence that this ever occurred.

Now Let's look at proof that Islam is NOT a religion of peace from history,

<<" In 711 CE Tariq ibn Ziyad, the governor of Tangiers, landed in Gibraltar with around 10,000 men, mostly Berbers (indigenous North Africans). He had some of Roderick's Visigoth rivals as allies. In the same or following year in the Cadiz province, Roderick's army was decimated and he is thought to have drowned as he fled. The Visigothic survivors fled to the north of Spain, and within a few years, the Muslims had taken over the rest of the Iberian Peninsula bar a few areas in the Asturian Mountains bordering France. [source -]http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0075_popup9.htm]

As can easily be seen, Islam was out for stealing land NOT belonging to them and used Tariq ibn Ziyad, a Muslim general, to accomplish this terrible wrong. This of course is not being peaceful in any way.
As usual, they are violent racist and bigots that have NO REGARD FOR THE PERSON AND PROPERTY OF OTHERS.

[[note, I challenge anyone to show any factual error in what I have written.]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
iris89
Site Admin


Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Posts: 4397

PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muslim Benefit Fraud / Muslims in Europe / Muslims in the UK / UK Muslim Demograhics / UK Statistics
Britain sinking under unproductive Muslims costing £13+ billion a year
[*Note. We encounter endless arguments by salafi libtards claiming there is no verification to these statistics although they are clearly verified under the links in Related]
Modest numerical calculations based on government statistics, wikileaks and media reports reveal that the British government spend a minimum £13+ billion a year from tax revenues on unproductive Muslims. Britain is expected to have more Muslims than all of Kuwait in less than two decades. While the government is trying to create £12 billion in annual cuts by targeting the handicapped, elderly, and poor amongst it’s own citizens, they have ignored a group that is highly overrepresented above anyone else in welfare exploitation. Sweden appears to be gripped in a similar situation with the country drowning in Muslim related expenses.
The Daily Telegraph reported in 2012 that 75% of all Muslim women are unemployed while 50% of all Muslim men are unemployed (67.5% total) – a staggering 350% rise from 13% for men and 18% for women in 2004. Muslims are also on sick leave more than anyone else, with 2001 figures revealing that 24% of females and 21% of males claim disability. Muslims are the most likely among all religious groups to be living in accommodation rented from the council or housing association (28%); 4% live rent-free (2004 figures). As if this is not enough, the total prison population in the UK amongst category A and B criminals (third degree criminals) is now 35-39% Muslim.
Since current statistics fail to clarify how many Muslims actually collect benefits, and whether unemployment figures include those on disability and in prison, only a crude estimate can be made. In spite of this our calculation is based only on basic, lowest payouts in Britain, meaning most additional paypits that Muslims would be entitled to are not included. The indications are nevertheless shocking: roughly 4.25 million Muslims, or more than 85%, live off tax payers (2012 unconfirmed estimate increased the Muslim population number from 3 million to 4.25). If we average this with a simple, quick calculation of the minimum benefit payment of £67 a week granted in Britain for adults, at least £ 284,750,000 per week (£1.139 billion per month) is spent from taxpayers on Muslims who barely contribute anything whatsoever to Britain’s revenues – except making more Muslims.
The calculation is not detailed enough to include housing benefits, childcare support, medical care and other coverage. We can estimate that only in unemployment support, Muslims cost the British government at least £ 13+ billion a year.
If the same population growth continues in a steady flow, by 2030 Britain will have a 40% Muslim population. And who will feed and house them? With this type of parasitic addition to society there is simply nowhere for the British economy to go but downhills. As if that is not bad enough, 32 percent of Muslim students (born in the UK) believe killing in the name of religion is justified; 54 percent wanted a Muslim Party to represent their world view in Parliament, and 40 percent of young Muslims in the UK want the country to be governed under Sharia law (2004 report).
Related:
1. Muslim statistics
2. Wikileaks: UK Muslim demographics 2009
3. Worldwide Muslim demographics and social conditions with the expansion of Islam
4. UK Muslim prison population: Prison pressure to convert to Islam
5. Wikipedia: Islam in the UK
6. Pew Global Statistics: Muslims in Europe
7. Dhimmi Guardian: Why Muslim women are unemployed (2009 data)
8. British Muslim Statistics (from 2001 census)
9. WikiIslam Muslim Statistics
10. Daily Telegraph: “…50% of Muslim men & 75% of Muslim women are unemployed“. Britain’s coping classes at breaking point
11. Almost a quarter of state school pupils are from an ethnic minority
12. National Statesman: The lost Muslim generation
13. Fox News: “…90% unemployment amongst Muslims in Sweden”. Sweden’s Muslim immigration problem
14. Number of British Muslims will double to 5.5m in 20 years [they are already reaching this 20 year projection]
Europe and Britain sinking under weight of welfare costs
It’s not just that much welfare spending has become bloated, unfair and sometimes outright corrupt, it is also that it is no longer economically affordable.
By Jeremy Warner10:47PM BST 08 Oct 2012 | The Telegraph
So how did Mr Nasty – aka George Osborne – do? I give the Chancellor a qualified thumbs-up for his party conference speech, even if the word “growth” was almost as absent from his rhetoric as “deficit” was last week from Ed Milliband. Osborne is as unforthcoming on how to get the economy growing again as the Labour leader is on dealing with our debts.
We can quickly dispense with the “shares for employment rights” initiative – this was just an irrelevant gimmick which will struggle to gain traction even in start-up companies.
But in choosing to focus so strongly on the need for welfare reform, the Chancellor put his finger on the nub of the problem, not just for Britain, but for virtually all advanced economies.
It’s not just that much welfare spending has become bloated, unfair and sometimes outright corrupt, it is also that it is no longer economically affordable. Osborne couched his case in highly political terms, as you might expect after the latest British Social Attitudes survey.
This showed a high degree of public support for further cuts in welfare spending. Where once the Tories were regarded as cruel and heartless for wanting to slash benefits, it now seems that they can’t be tough enough. Politically, Osborne is therefore pushing at an open door when he says this is not just about saving money – it’s about fairness and enterprise.
How can we justify the incomes of those out of work rising faster than the incomes of those in work, he asks, or giving flats to young people who have never worked when working people twice their age still have to live with their parents because they cannot afford a separate home?
More emotively still, he asked how it was possible to justify a system where people in work have to consider the costs of having another child, while those who are out of work don’t. By raising these questions, Osborne gives voice to a strongly populist message, but he also speaks to an underlying, economic imperative – advanced economies are long past the stage of being able to afford such largesse.
In his speech, Osborne was aiming only at the easy political targets of entitlement spending – for want of a better term, the “social scroungers”, or those who choose welfare over work. The savings that can be made here are certainly not to be sneezed at. Looking at those areas of welfare spending which grew most strongly under the last government, they were things like housing benefit and other forms of income support.

Yet they are dwarfed by healthcare and pensions spending, and it is these entitlements which pose the biggest challenge for the future.
As it happens, Britain is rather better placed than many of its European peers in this regard. On pensions spending, the age of entitlement is already being raised, and will in future continue to rise in line with life expectancy. The per capita cost of the pensions promise is thereby capped.
The same is not true of health and long-term care, the costs of which will grow rapidly as society ages. Relatively favourable demographics make these costs less of a problem for Britain than they are for much of the rest of Europe.
Recent projections aired by Fabio Pammolli, professor of economics at the IMT Institute for Advanced Studies, show quite shocking levels of exposure. If there wasn’t already enough to worry about in Europe’s fiscal meltdown, these forecasts point to destruction of the very foundations of the European social market economy. Taking into account the expected decrease in fertility and mortality rates, the burden on active workers of healthcare and pensions spending is expected to grow over the next 20 years to 63.5pc of GDP per capita in Italy, 61.6pc in France, and 53.3pc in Germany.
Favourable demographics mean that by comparison, the projected UK burden is relatively small at just 38.7pc. Yet it is still quite high enough.
In Europe, stopping is going to make the present outbreak of economic, social and political instability over deficit reduction look like a stroll in the park. We are only in the very early stages of Europe’s wider fiscal crisis. There is still much worse to come, regardless of whether the euro survives or not.
It might be said in defence of the single currency that it has at least forced countries to make a start on the sort of structural reform that one way or another is bound to come.
Well possibly, but you see very little evidence of such reforms in France – on the contrary, France seems to be haring off in the other direction as fast as it possibly can – and ultimately, it will be the euro that gets the blame for the stultifying effect the present policy mix of fiscal and monetary austerity is having on growth. Eventually, it will break under the pressure.
In its latest World Economic Outlook, the IMF concedes that one of the reasons it has been over-estimating growth prospects for Europe is that short-term fiscal multipliers have been bigger than expected. This is just a complicated way of saying that when everyone is cutting all at the same time, the effect is almost bound to be self-defeating. Lack of growth will cause deficits to increase regardless.
It is hard to find a single chief executive who is interested in serious investment on mainland Europe right now. For all the reasons highlighted, the place is regarded as too toxic to touch. The future of the euro is just one among a mountain of negatives.
All of which means that Osborne can expect little or no help from the Continent in his efforts to get on top of Britain’s own debts. Europe is set on a five to 10-year period of nil growth, falling living standards and brutally disappointed expectations. All that Europeans can look forward to once the present phase of austerity comes to an end is yet more austerity.
Is there anything the Chancellor can do to help himself? Belatedly, he seems now at least to be attacking the right targets. I’ve been a supporter of the broad outline of the Government’s deficit reduction strategy, but there is no doubt that front-end loading the consolidation with tax increases and swingeing cuts in capital spending has damaged growth badly and therefore steepened the climb back to health.
The Coalition went for the easy hits, rather than the really difficult, long-term stuff. This has not served either the Government or the economy well.
Osborne rejected the case for tax cuts yesterday, but actually, putting money back in people’s pockets is the best thing he could do to support demand and give the British economy a fighting chance against the winds blowing in from Europe.
To be effective, such tax cuts cannot be temporary, but must be permanent, and therefore funded with far more draconian action on welfare than we have seen to date. Cameron and Osborne need to ask themselves just three questions. What are they in government for? Is it compromise and defeat? Or reform, growth and a sustainable future? ?[SOURCE - RETRIVED FROM https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/.../britain-sinking.../ ON 4/ 6/2018]
Edit or delete this
Britain sinking under unproductive Muslims costing £13+ billion a year
THEMUSLIMISSUE.WORDPRESS.COM
Britain sinking under unproductive Muslims costing £13+ billion a year
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Free Forum






PostPosted:      Post subject: ForumsLand.com

Back to top
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Religious Truths by Iris89 Forum Index -> Welcome to ForumsLand.com - Free forum hosting service All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Forum hosted by ForumsLand.com - 100% free forum. Powered by phpBB 2.