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MANY TRY TO TWIST THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE TO SUPPORT THEIR FA

 
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:08 pm    Post subject: MANY TRY TO TWIST THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE TO SUPPORT THEIR FA Reply with quote

[/b]MANY TRY TO TWIST THE WORDS OF THE BIBLE TO SUPPORT THEIR FALSE IDEAS

There is a book that by its many pages, Brings peace and joy and hope to humankind. Its wondrous thoughts are charged with such great power; It brings life to the “dead,” sight to the “blind.”, That precious book is God’s own Holy Bible. Its words were penned by men whom God inspired, By men who truly loved their God Jehovah, And by his holy spirit they were fired. [SOURCE = RETRIVED FROM “Sing Out Joyfully to Jehovah: ON 30/10 / 2019]

HOW SO? LET’S LOOK AT HOW BELIEVERS IN QURAN TWIST IT AT 61:6 TO TRY AND CLAIM MUHAMMAD IS FOUND IN THE BIBLE;

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And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is the Praised One. Yet when he hath come unto them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic.
Sahih Intl
And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."
Yusuf Ali
And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"’
BUT REALLY THE SCRIPTURE THEY ARE REFERRING TO IN THE HOLY BIBLE SUPPORTS NO SUCH THING. IT REFERS TO THE HOLY SPIRIT AS THE MESSENGER AND NOT MUHAMMAD. THE PRIMARY SCRIPTURE IN THE BIBLE THEY ARE REFERRING TO IS JOHN 14:26 THAT READS AS FOLLOWS:
But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name, that one will teach you all things and bring back to your minds all the things I told you. [New World Translation Revised; NWTR]
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. [Authorized King James; AV]
but the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, *he* shall teach you all things, and will bring to your remembrance all the things which I have said to you. [Darby Bible of 1890; DARBY]
But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. [English Standard Version; ESV]
and the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and remind you of all things that I said to you. [Youngs Literal Translation of the Bible; YOUNGS]
NOW LET’S CONSIDER JUST WHO OR WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT IS BY FIRST CONSIDERING WHAT THE WORD SPIRIT REFERS TO PER A BIBLE ENCYCLOPEDIA:
“The Greek pneu?ma (spirit) comes from pne?o, meaning “breathe or blow,” and the Hebrew ru?ach (spirit) is believed to come from a root having the same meaning. Ru?ach and pneu?ma, then, basically mean “breath” but have extended meanings beyond that basic sense. (Compare Hab 2:19; Re 13:15.) They can also mean wind; the vital force in living creatures; one’s spirit; spirit persons, including God and his angelic creatures; and God’s active force, or holy spirit. (Compare Koehler and Baumgartner’s Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, Leiden, 1958, pp. 877-879; Brown, Driver, and Briggs’ Hebrew and English Lexicon of the Old Testament, 1980, pp. 924-926; Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, edited by G. Friedrich, translated by G. Bromiley, 1971, Vol. VI, pp. 332-451.) All these meanings have something in common: They all refer to that which is invisible to human sight and which gives evidence of force in motion. Such invisible force is capable of producing visible effects.
Another Hebrew word, nesha·mah? (Ge 2:7), also means “breath,” but it is more limited in range of meaning than ru?ach. The Greek pno·e? seems to have a similar limited sense (Ac 17:25) and was used by the Septuagint translators to render nesha·mah? [SOURCE = RETRIVED FROM Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1 ON 30/10/ 2019]

NOW LET’S LOOK AT HOLY SPIRIT IN SPECIFIC:

“God’s Active Force; Holy Spirit. By far the majority of occurrences of ru?ach and pneu?ma relate to God’s spirit, his active force, his holy spirit.
Not a person. Not until the fourth century C.E. did the teaching that the holy spirit was a person and part of the “Godhead” become official church dogma. Early church “fathers” did not so teach; Justin Martyr of the second century C.E. taught that the holy spirit was an ‘influence or mode of operation of the Deity’; Hippolytus likewise ascribed no personality to the holy spirit. The Scriptures themselves unite to show that God’s holy spirit is not a person but is God’s active force by which he accomplishes his purpose and executes his will.
It may first be noted that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJ) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually spurious additions to the original text. A footnote in The Jerusalem Bible, a Catholic translation, says that these words are “not in any of the early Greek MSS [manuscripts], or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg[ate] itself.” A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by Bruce Metzger (1975, pp. 716-718), traces in detail the history of the spurious passage. It states that the passage is first found in a treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus, of the fourth century, and that it appears in Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts of the Scriptures, beginning in the sixth century. Modern translations as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature.—RS, NE, NAB.” [SOURCE = RETRIVED FROM Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1 ON 30/10/ 2019]

IN REALITY WE CAN THINK OR UNDERSTAND THE HOLY SPIRIT IN ELECTRICAL TERMS BY THINKING OF ALMIGHTY GOD AS THE ELECTRICAL POWER PLANT AND THE HOLY SPIRIT AS ELECTRICITY EMITTING FROM THIS ENERGY SOURCE. CLEARLY, NO EARTHLY MAN IS THE HOLY SPIRIT; THEREFORE THIS, JOHN 14:26 AND SIMILAR SCRIPTURES, THAT SOME MUSLIMS ARE FANCIFULLY TWISTING TO CLAIM THIS AND SIMILAR SCRIPTURES POINT IN ANY WAY TO THE FALSE PROPHET MUHAMMAD. ALSO, REMEMBER THAT JESUS CHRIST WAS BOTH ALMIGHTY GOD’S SON AND THE PRINCE OF PEACE.

THIS WOULD CLEARLY ELIMINATE A VIOLENT MAN, WHO COMMITTED GENOCIDE BY KILLING AND ENTIRE JEWISH TRIBE – MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN [SOURCE = RETRIVED FROM “ http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2015/06/muhammad-and-genocide-of-jews.html ‘ ON 30/10/ 2019] , WHO WAS A HIGHWAY ROBBER IN THAT HE ROBBED A CARAVAN, AND WAS A PEDOPHILE WHO MARRIED A SIX YEAR OLD FEMALE AND CONSUMMATED IT WHEN SHE WAS NINE YEARS OLD [SOURCE = RETRIVED FROM “Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234” ON 30/10/2019], EVEN IF AS THE MUSLIMS CLAIM THIS AND SIMILAR SCRIPTURES APPLIED TO AN EARTHLY MAN WHICH IT DOES NOT AS THE NEXT SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SHOWS IT COULD NOT APPLY TO MUHAMMAD:
JOHN 14:27 SAYS, “ I leave you peace; I give you my peace. I do not give it to you the way that the world gives it. Do not let your hearts be troubled nor let them shrink out of fear” [New World Translation Revised; NWTR]
CLEARLY, MUSLIM CLERICS AND SCHOLARS UNDERSTANDING WITH RESPECT THE HOLY BIBLE IS MOST DEFICIENT OR THEY WOULD NEVER PRETEND TO FIND A VIOLENT MAN SUCH AS MUHAMMAD, SOME OF HIS EVIL ACTS PREVIOUSLY LISTED AS BEING THE HELPER JESUS CHRIST, THE PRINCE OF PEACE AND SON OF ALMIGHTY GOD AS SENDING AS THE HELPER.
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